Weather forecast on shortwave

Here is my first reception of an RTTY signal transmitting weather forecast.

TX station: Marine Weather Service – Hamburg, Germany
Frequency: 10100.8 kHz
Way of transmission: RTTY, speed 50 baud, shift 450 Hz
RX location: Oulu, Finland
Receiver: Degen DE1103
Antenna: Shortwave active loop antenna placed indoor close to a window towards SW
SINPO: 43443
Decoder: SeaTTY software, line-out of the receiver connected to mic-in of a laptop

Despite the interference coming from the laptop (the LCD screen creates really bad interference through the audio cable), the reception was really good.

rtty - weather forecast

14 thoughts on “Weather forecast on shortwave

  1. Raffa Post author

    Sì, ma poi a 50 baud, ti rendi conto? il Marine Weather Service di Amburgo è uno dei pochi che mantiene il servizio in RTTY sulle onde corte. La maggior parte di questi servizi è stata terminata a causa delle nuove tecnologie. Dice infatti che una rete chiamata Internet permetta velocità molto più elevate, e con una migliore affidabilità rispetto alla trasmissione in onde corte.

    PS: prova a lasciare un messaggio ora 🙂

  2. Raffa Post author

    Actually I’ve bought a ground loop isolator, a device that separates the ground of the radio from the laptop. It doesn’t make a big difference. My opinion is that my laptop is bad (actually it is 🙂 ), concerning RF interference. The LCD screen and the hard disk are also bad sources of noise.
    Awaiting for the ASUS eee 901 to be released, with that one it’ll be another story!

  3. edo

    Ouch!

    If the interference comes from the cable itself you may filter with a low pass filter, since you need low freq audio and the LCD will be presumably above 100kHz (my guess is that the noise comes from the inverter).

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    —- GND

    the cutoff freq (-3dB) is 1/sqrt(RC). You’ll have to adjust the values to an appropriate freq and low resistance (but then you need a high enough capacitance!).

  4. Raffa Post author

    Actually the sources of interference are two: one on RF (the screen, for example, increases the noise of the received signal in the radio, also with the audio cable unplugged), one through the cable when plugged. One possible explanation for the latter is that the laptop doesn’t have a line-in, but only mic-in, which makes me thing that that input is active (amplified), thus the increased noise. With a ground isolator that should be solved, though. But it isn’t.

  5. edo

    Again! You plug the audio output of your radio to the line-in (mic-in) of your computer. Does the radio get audible interference? Or is just the signal into the computer that is noisy. Let’s for a moment forget the RF noise radiated from the screen.

  6. Raffa Post author

    The radio gets back interference from the laptop. If I switch off the LCD screen, the interference disappear. Furthermore, also the laptop charger makes interference. Actually I have to work on battery, otherwise I can’t hear anything from the radio. All this when the audio cable is plugged, of course.

  7. Raffa Post author

    There is a discussion going on in the DE1103 forum: also there they say to separate the grounds. I start to wonder whether the ground loop separator I bought is not working properly. I might buy the stuff and build it by myself 🙂

  8. edo

    Looks to me that this is a mere interference by means of the cable rather than a ground loop. To test this it’s sufficient to operate the radio on batteries and/or the laptop.

    I would try with a low pass filter. I do this on my experiment.

  9. Raffa Post author

    Yep. Actually I could easily make a low pass filter with 20/30 kHz cut-off frequency, or even less, since the transmission bandwidth is just 4 kHz. I’ll let you know. Didn’t know you were interested in this kind of stuff!

  10. edo

    Well, that’s what I’ve been doing lately in my job: removing ground loops and noise. So now I reached a ~10 nV noise on my sample and I removed the ground loop that caused a signal few orders of magnitude larger that what I measure now.

    And I like to fix this kind of things: I’m not an expert in electronics, but I like when I manage to do what I want!

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